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Posted November 7, 2023

Not everyone is able to invest 25% for retirement in their 20s, but by the time you are in your 30s you should be aiming to invest 25% of your gross income for retirement. Here’s exactly what investing that 25% can do for you.

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The last two things we talked about were car buying and home buying. You can make a mistake there, and those are like errors of commission. You are a consumer; you are choosing to do that. This next one, I think, is so important. I think this becomes an error of omission, right? By people who are in that messy middle, because it’s hard. It requires a lot of discipline. It requires you to do something that may be uncomfortable. But if you really want to make the most of your money through the messy middle, you’ve got to do your best to hit the 25% savings rate. And when we say savings, we’re talking about saving and investing for the future, or at least moving towards that. Maybe in the messy middle, you can’t hit 25%. Maybe right now, today, you can hit 12%. The challenge I would give you is, okay, how do I get to 11% next year, and then 13% the next? And how do I continue to move along the path in that direction? Because if you can, there’s a really good chance that you’re going to set yourself up so that your future self will say, ‘Man, I’m so glad I made those hard decisions when I made them.’

But it goes further than that. What’s the ‘why’? I love this. See, you were kind of… You came up with a lot of the underpinnings for this. We actually created a great illustration that we’ve put… You can go to money.com/resources and download your free copy of this too. Why did we choose 25%? What we recognize is that if you can save 25% from now, at the age you are until you get to retirement, and we use age 65 as our estimated retirement… We wanted to say, how much of your pre-retirement income could you replace saving 25%? We actually created a grid. So if you’re a 30-year-old and you save 25% from age 30 to 65, there’s a good chance that your portfolio will be large enough that you would actually be able to get a pay raise when you retire. It could replace 119% of your pre-retirement income. Now, you might say, ‘Why on Earth would I want to do that?’ You probably wouldn’t. But what you might want to do is retire at 60, or retire at 55, or retire at 50. And so if you can get to that 25% savings rate, one of the beautiful things that it will do is, as you’re working through the financial order of operations and as you have those three steps forward and those two steps back, there may be some years where you’re able to hit 25% and crush it. And there might be some years you’re only able to hit 16. Well, in those years, Brian, you… When you started a business, you had those years. It was a messy time period. I just know that. I know that. I know you’re… You were so thankful that 24-year-old, 25-year-old Brian was saving the way that he was supposed to be saving to give him some grace through that messy middle. I mean, we do an annual survey of all of our millionaire clients. And I am still waiting. We close out the survey with some open-ended questions of what would you tell your younger self? And I have yet to see… Now, maybe somebody… The bigger we get, the more likely we’ll have a Daniel practical joke or a chaos seeker who will jump in there based on what I’m saying. But it never surprises me that everybody’s like, ‘I wish, even though these are successful people, I wish I’d have saved more and started earlier.’ It’s always… I don’t have people who say, ‘Man, I regret those early investments or purchases of getting into this saving and investment game.’ And I think that’s why this is where, Bo, we do have to walk a line. I want to give everyone the grace that that messy middle deserves. However, we’ve got to be like your strength coaches. We are the ones that are going to put the pressure. I know you’re an athlete. I guess it’s not fair to call you an ex-athlete. You still get up and train and do… Put in the work and stuff. But it is one of those things where I have to steal that your coach is saying, where if you do it right, you do it light. If you do it wrong, you’re going to do it long. And there is not a better illustration. So look at this… We are going to spot you, but we’re going to try to put as much weight on you as possible because it’s important. And this is probably… We are going to, in a minute, talk about your time as a component of how you allocate every hour that you have access to. But I want to talk to you about the component of time that goes into the money side of things. And think about this. This is a great illustration. If you have… We’re going to go through each decade. For somebody who’s in their 20s, if you can just save $100 a month from the time you’re 20 to the time you’re 65. Think about that. That’s 45 years of savings. So, yeah, it’s a longer time commitment. It’s only $100 a month. It’s $100 a month or $54,000 total that entire time period. So think about… Now, let’s contrast this to the 30-something who said, ‘Hey, I’m just going to enjoy myself in my 20s. But you know what? I’ll pick up the slack twofold in my 30s.’ So instead of doing $100 a month, this person saved from 30 to 65 $200 a month, or a total investment of $84,000. They’ve already invested more than the 20-something did. Then we go to the 40-something. Once again, they said, ‘Look, I deferred. I didn’t start, so instead of doing $200 a month, I’m going to double that. I’ll do $400 a month for the next 25 years.’ That’s $120,000 invested. And then, of course, if you waited until you’re 50, you’re almost doing $1,000 a month, right at $800 a month. That would be $144,000 invested over that 15-year period. I mean, that 50-year-old saved a lot more money than the 20-year-old, three times, almost three times what the 20-year-old did. But like I said, doing it right meant that it was light. I mean, in the fact that if you look at the actual results, this is the power of compounding. Now, you guys know we put a glide path in a lot of our illustrations. But for this one, we just did a straight 9% for everyone, so you didn’t lose focus on the true point here. I’m amazed to see that the person who started in their 20s, their account is now worth just off doing $100 a month in this illustration. It’s worth $740,000. Amazing, or 93% of their value is the growth, not what they put in. The growth, they had to do the easy work. The money did all the hard work for them. Think about the 30-year-old. They put in all that money, and they still have 80% of growth. This is why I love the 25% because it still reflects that you can be extremely successful, even if you’re listening to this in your 30s and you’re starting today on your investment journey. It’s only… But it’s worth still, you know, $60,000 less than the 20-something. $588,000, the 40-year-old. It’s worth a little less than half a million or 73% growth. And then the 50-something, their account grows to $33,000 even though they were investing $800 a month, close to 1,000 bucks because they only had a chance for the account to grow 52% versus the 93% the 20-something. Listen to me as your strength and training coach. You’ve got to start. You’ve got to do something. Don’t waste the most important and valuable element of this entire exercise, which is time. I’m gracefield, and I want you to know you’re not alone. But please do something. I don’t care if it’s $25 a month. I don’t care if it’s $50 a month. Start now so that as times get easier and better, you can add to your prior successes versus if you just defer and procrastinate because life is hard. That doesn’t fix it; that makes it harder. Even if you come at it two, three, four times harder than you would have if you started earlier. Check out our Financial Order of Operations for more information.

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What is the money guy 25 rule? ›

Not everyone is able to invest 25% for retirement in their 20s, but by the time you are in your 30s you should be aiming to invest 25% of your gross income for retirement.

Is investing 25% of income good? ›

Although that percentage can vary depending on your income, savings, and debts. “Ideally, you'll invest somewhere around 15%–25% of your post-tax income,” says Mark Henry, founder and CEO at Alloy Wealth Management. “If you need to start smaller and work your way up to that goal, that's fine.

What is the 50 25 25 rule in investing? ›

50% of all the money deposited into this account would automatically go into an investment account. Another 25% would automatically go into a savings account to pay for taxes. The remaining 25% would go into an account that you could use to pay all of your expenses.

How much should you have invested by 25? ›

By age 25, you should have saved at least 0.5X your annual expenses. The more the better. In other words, if you spend $50,000 a year, you should have about $25,000 in savings. If you spend $100,000 a year, you should have at least $50,000 in savings.

Does the rule of 25 work? ›

One thing the rule of 25 doesn't consider isother sources of retirement income, such as Social Security, pension benefits or a part-time job. So the principle is far from an exact science since it only considers how much money you need to accumulate in your investment accounts prior to retirement.

What is the rule number 1 of money? ›

Rule #2: Never forget rule #1.” This is perhaps one of the most famous Buffettisms, and it emphasizes the importance of protecting your capital. Buffett is known for being a value investor, which means he looks for undervalued companies and buys them at a discount.

How much money do I need to invest to make $1000 a month? ›

A stock portfolio focused on dividends can generate $1,000 per month or more in perpetual passive income, Mircea Iosif wrote on Medium. “For example, at a 4% dividend yield, you would need a portfolio worth $300,000.

How much money do I need to invest to make $500 a month? ›

Some experts recommend withdrawing 4% each year from your retirement accounts. To generate $500 a month, you might need to build your investments to $150,000. Taking out 4% each year would amount to $6,000, which comes to $500 a month.

How much to retire at 60? ›

And by age 60, you should have six to 11 times your salary saved in order to be considered on track for retirement. For example, a 35-year-old earning $60,000 would be on track if she's saved about $60,000 to $90,000.

What is the 75 25 rule in investing? ›

Graham says to stay within the range of 25/75 to 75/25: We have suggested as a fundamental guiding rule that the investor should never have less than 25% or more than 75% of his funds in common stocks, with a consequent inverse range of between 75% and 25% in bonds.

Is 20x salary enough to retire? ›

SO, HOW MUCH MONEY WILL YOU NEED? Many sources say your retirement savings should total 10-20x your current income. You'll need 70-80% of your pre-retirement income in retirement.

What is the 20 percent 25 profit taking rule? ›

20%-25% profits-taking rule

When the stock price goes up and reaches that percentage, you sell the stock to secure your gains, which will also boost your confidence in further investment.

How much money do I need to invest to make $4000 a month? ›

Making $4,000 a month based on your investments alone is not a small feat. For example, if you have an investment or combination of investments with a 9.5% yield, you would have to invest $500,000 or more potentially. This is a high amount, but could almost guarantee you a $4,000 monthly dividend income.

How to invest 100k to make $1 million? ›

4 Ways To Grow $100,000 Into $1 Million for Retirement Savings
  1. An S&P 500 index fund. An S&P 500 index fund isn't going to provide market-beating returns, but it will ensure that you don't fall behind the average. ...
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  3. Dividend stocks. ...
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Is saving $1000 a month good? ›

Saving $1,000 per month can be a good sign, as it means you're setting aside money for emergencies and long-term goals. However, if you're ignoring high-interest debt to meet your savings goals, you might want to switch gears and focus on paying off debt first.

What is the 1 3 rule of money? ›

This rule suggests that you should allocate 1/3 of your income to housing expenses, 6% to debt repayment, and 3 months of living expenses to an emergency fund. Here are some insights from different points of view on how to apply this rule to your personal finances: 1.

What is the Bills 50 30 20 rule? ›

The 50/30/20 budget rule states that you should spend up to 50% of your after-tax income on needs and obligations that you must have or must do. The remaining half should be split between savings and debt repayment (20%) and everything else that you might want (30%).

What is the 50 30 20 rule for managing money? ›

Those will become part of your budget. The 50-30-20 rule recommends putting 50% of your money toward needs, 30% toward wants, and 20% toward savings. The savings category also includes money you will need to realize your future goals.

What is the savings rate for the money guy show? ›

We suggest saving 20-25% of your gross income towards retirement. While saving something is better than nothing, especially while you're young or just starting out, this 20-25% savings rate should be your goal. The higher your income, the more your retirement lies on your shoulders.

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