craig
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#30156
I was curious did the Rock ever issue a separate TT for the Peoria trackage or was it an addendum in one its regular isuued ETT?
Before I forget, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Craig Cloud
David Jordan
#30157
Peoria Terminal Company had its own timetable. Those I've seen start with
Western Avenue (MP 163.2) trackage to the north and end with Pekin south (MP
171.1). Apparently, the Belt Line was included in Rock Island's own TT's, as
was everything else.
DPJ
I was curious did the Rock ever issue a separate TT for the Peoria trackage
or was it an addendum in one its regular isuued ETT?
Before I forget, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Craig Cloud
John
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#30158
Belt line was not in any PT timetables I have. However the milepost were miles from Chicago.
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--- On Wed, 12/26/12, David Jordan wrote:
From: David Jordan
Subject: RE: [PeoriaRails] Rock Island Terminal
To: PeoriaRails@...
Date: Wednesday, December 26, 2012, 12:41 AMPeoria Terminal Company had its own timetable. Those I've seen start with
Western Avenue (MP 163.2) trackage to the north and end with Pekin south (MP
171.1). Apparently, the Belt Line was included in Rock Island's own TT's, as
was everything else.DPJ
>I was curious did the Rock ever issue a separate TT for the Peoria trackage
or was it an addendum in one its regular isuued ETT?
>Before I forget, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
>Craig Cloud
Bill Saenger
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#30189
John, David and List,
I have a copy of "CRI&P Peoria Terminal" (not Peoria Terminal Co.), First District Employee Time Table No. 2 dated Nov. 22, 1942. It covers scheduled trains between Sankoty, MP-155.0 and Peoria MP-161.0.
In this same ETT Special Instruction 24a states: "The CRI&P Belt Line between Rock Island passenger station, Peoria, and Iowa Jct. are operated as two main tracks and trains and engines using these tracks will keep to the right." This is the only mention of the line in the time table. I have not seen anything about the Belt in any other CRI&P ETTs for the Peoria main lines.
A district without any scheduled trains would usually still have a time table listing showing stations along the line and all trains would be run as extras. Since I have not been able to locate a Belt Line Timetable listing I wonder if the Belt was within yard limits and operated under those rules.
I would like to learn more information on the nature of the operation of the Belt Line and the mileposts for Walnut St. Tower (TP&W Crossing), P&PU crossing and Iowa Jct (or end of track) and any other points of significance.
Best,
Bill Saenger
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--- In PeoriaRails@..., John Stell <stell_john@...> wrote:
Belt line was not in any PT timetables I have. ÂHowever the milepost were miles from Chicago.--- On Wed, 12/26/12, David Jordan <dpj1974@...> wrote:
From: David Jordan <dpj1974@...>
Subject: RE: [PeoriaRails] Rock Island Terminal
To: PeoriaRails@...
Date: Wednesday, December 26, 2012, 12:41 AMÂ
Peoria Terminal Company had its own timetable. Those I've seen start with
Western Avenue (MP 163.2) trackage to the north and end with Pekin south (MP
171.1). Apparently, the Belt Line was included in Rock Island's own TT's, as
was everything else.
DPJ
I was curious did the Rock ever issue a separate TT for the Peoria trackageor was it an addendum in one its regular isuued ETT?Before I forget, Merry Christmas and Happy New YearCraig Cloud
David Jordan
#30190
The Belt Line has an interesting history. Grading was actually started by
the Peoria & Farmington (Iowa Central/M&StL predecessor) in 1882, but the
project was likely abandoned when the P&F ran into financial trouble (which
led to consolidation with the Iowa Central).
In 1885, the Peoria Railway Terminal Company was formed to build a Belt Line
from near Walnut Street in downtown Peoria to Monmouth Jct. (today's Iowa
Junction) on Peoria's south edge. Land was acquired along the riverfront and
construction got underway in September 1892. Tracklaying commenced in March
1893 and the Belt Line was put into service in late May 1893.
Illinois Sugar Refining Co's Illinois Valley Belt Railway had trackage
rights over interurban P&PT and PRT's Belt Line starting in 1902 so it could
connect the Pekin and Peoria sugar houses. When the latter closed a few
years later, the IVB ceased operations.
The railroad was leased to the Rock Island & Peoria Railway in 1894. Then it
was sold to the RI&P on June 10, 1903, the day before RI&P was leased in
perpetuity to the Chicago Rock Island & Pacific. On that day (June 11,
1903), The Peoria Railway Terminal Company was renamed Peoria Terminal
Company. (NOTE: The "Peoria Railway Terminal" name would be used by
interurban Peoria & Pekin Terminal after it was acquired by the Chicago &
Alton and CRI&P in 1907).
The Belt Line was built to access Lower Peoria's several large whiskey
distilleries, and it also gave the Rock Island a direct connection to the
Iowa Central/M&StL. On April 21, 1921, M&StL trains ceased using P&PU's
Peoria Union Depot, instead terminating its passenger trains at the Rock
Island's downtown depot. To do this, M&StL passenger trains used the Belt
Line (until 1939). Freight transfers to and from the CRI&P's Peoria Yard did
as well.
In the postwar era, the Belt Line gave CRI&P access to CILCO's gas plant,
Pabst Brewing Co's malt house, Hiram Walker & Sons' Riverside Elevator Co,
Hiram Walker & Sons' feed house and shipping warehouse, Martin Oil Service
Co, National Distillers' Product Co, Commercial Solvents Co, Hiram Walker &
Sons Plant No. 2 and Barrett Paper Div. Allied Chemical & Dye.
In Illinois Terminal's Directory of Industries (1947), CRI&P, not PTCo, is
shown as serving carrier, so perhaps when PTCo took over operation of the
PRT in 1927, the Belt Line became a CRI&P operation?
The CRI&P estate sold the Belt Line to ADM in February 1981. The double
track was probably reduced to single track in the 1970s, possibly after the
Rock's bankruptcy filing (unneeded rails sold for cash?) or this was done by
ADM in the 1980s (which I doubt). Whatever the case, entire Belt Line had
been reduced to just a single track, and the only spurs served ADM's
riverfront plant.
In 1993, ADM South Yard was built between Sanger and S. Darst Streets, and a
spur was constructed into Peoria Barge Terminal. In the early 2000s, a spur
was built to serve Interstate Asphalt Corp's Peoria River Terminal (another
track was added by 2010). In summer 2011, Seneca Petroleum had two tracks
built for its nearby liquid asphalt storage facility.
So after nearly 120 years, the Belt Line (ADM called it the "River Track")
still thrives.
DPJ
I would like to learn more information on the nature of the operation of
the Belt Line and the mileposts for Walnut St. Tower (TP&W Crossing), P&PU
crossing and >Iowa Jct (or end of track) and any other points of
significance.
John
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#30202
The two mains were called the River Main and the Bluff Main when I worked the PT tower.
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--- On Thu, 12/27/12, David Jordan wrote:
From: David Jordan
Subject: RE: [PeoriaRails] Re: Rock Island Terminal
To: PeoriaRails@...
Date: Thursday, December 27, 2012, 11:09 PMThe Belt Line has an interesting history. Grading was actually started by
the Peoria & Farmington (Iowa Central/M&StL predecessor) in 1882, but the
project was likely abandoned when the P&F ran into financial trouble (which
led to consolidation with the Iowa Central).In 1885, the Peoria Railway Terminal Company was formed to build a Belt Line
from near Walnut Street in downtown Peoria to Monmouth Jct. (today's Iowa
Junction) on Peoria's south edge. Land was acquired along the riverfront and
construction got underway in September 1892. Tracklaying commenced in March
1893 and the Belt Line was put into service in late May 1893.Illinois Sugar Refining Co's Illinois Valley Belt Railway had trackage
rights over interurban P&PT and PRT's Belt Line starting in 1902 so it could
connect the Pekin and Peoria sugar houses. When the latter closed a few
years later, the IVB ceased operations.The railroad was leased to the Rock Island & Peoria Railway in 1894. Then it
was sold to the RI&P on June 10, 1903, the day before RI&P was leased in
perpetuity to the Chicago Rock Island & Pacific. On that day (June 11,
1903), The Peoria Railway Terminal Company was renamed Peoria Terminal
Company. (NOTE: The "Peoria Railway Terminal" name would be used by
interurban Peoria & Pekin Terminal after it was acquired by the Chicago &
Alton and CRI&P in 1907).The Belt Line was built to access Lower Peoria's several large whiskey
distilleries, and it also gave the Rock Island a direct connection to the
Iowa Central/M&StL. On April 21, 1921, M&StL trains ceased using P&PU's
Peoria Union Depot, instead terminating its passenger trains at the Rock
Island's downtown depot. To do this, M&StL passenger trains used the Belt
Line (until 1939). Freight transfers to and from the CRI&P's Peoria Yard did
as well.In the postwar era, the Belt Line gave CRI&P access to CILCO's gas plant,
Pabst Brewing Co's malt house, Hiram Walker & Sons' Riverside Elevator Co,
Hiram Walker & Sons' feed house and shipping warehouse, Martin Oil Service
Co, National Distillers' Product Co, Commercial Solvents Co, Hiram Walker &
Sons Plant No. 2 and Barrett Paper Div. Allied Chemical & Dye.In Illinois Terminal's Directory of Industries (1947), CRI&P, not PTCo, is
shown as serving carrier, so perhaps when PTCo took over operation of the
PRT in 1927, the Belt Line became a CRI&P operation?The CRI&P estate sold the Belt Line to ADM in February 1981. The double
track was probably reduced to single track in the 1970s, possibly after the
Rock's bankruptcy filing (unneeded rails sold for cash?) or this was done by
ADM in the 1980s (which I doubt). Whatever the case, entire Belt Line had
been reduced to just a single track, and the only spurs served ADM's
riverfront plant.In 1993, ADM South Yard was built between Sanger and S. Darst Streets, and a
spur was constructed into Peoria Barge Terminal. In the early 2000s, a spur
was built to serve Interstate Asphalt Corp's Peoria River Terminal (another
track was added by 2010). In summer 2011, Seneca Petroleum had two tracks
built for its nearby liquid asphalt storage facility.So after nearly 120 years, the Belt Line (ADM called it the "River Track")
still thrives.DPJ
>I would like to learn more information on the nature of the operation of
the Belt Line and the mileposts for Walnut St. Tower (TP&W Crossing), P&PU
crossing and >Iowa Jct (or end of track) and any other points of
significance.
Bill Saenger
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#30208
John,
Do you recall any train orders being issued for trains running on the Belt Line?
Best,
Bill Saenger
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--- In PeoriaRails@..., John Stell <stell_john@...> wrote:
The two mains were called the River Main and the Bluff Main when I worked the PT tower.--- On Thu, 12/27/12, David Jordan <dpj1974@...> wrote:
From: David Jordan <dpj1974@...>
Subject: RE: [PeoriaRails] Re: Rock Island Terminal
To: PeoriaRails@...
Date: Thursday, December 27, 2012, 11:09 PMÂ
The Belt Line has an interesting history. Grading was actually started by
the Peoria & Farmington (Iowa Central/M&StL predecessor) in 1882, but the
project was likely abandoned when the P&F ran into financial trouble (which
led to consolidation with the Iowa Central).
In 1885, the Peoria Railway Terminal Company was formed to build a Belt Line
from near Walnut Street in downtown Peoria to Monmouth Jct. (today's Iowa
Junction) on Peoria's south edge. Land was acquired along the riverfront and
construction got underway in September 1892. Tracklaying commenced in March
1893 and the Belt Line was put into service in late May 1893.
Illinois Sugar Refining Co's Illinois Valley Belt Railway had trackage
rights over interurban P&PT and PRT's Belt Line starting in 1902 so it could
connect the Pekin and Peoria sugar houses. When the latter closed a few
years later, the IVB ceased operations.
The railroad was leased to the Rock Island & Peoria Railway in 1894. Then it
was sold to the RI&P on June 10, 1903, the day before RI&P was leased in
perpetuity to the Chicago Rock Island & Pacific. On that day (June 11,
1903), The Peoria Railway Terminal Company was renamed Peoria Terminal
Company. (NOTE: The "Peoria Railway Terminal" name would be used by
interurban Peoria & Pekin Terminal after it was acquired by the Chicago &
Alton and CRI&P in 1907).
The Belt Line was built to access Lower Peoria's several large whiskey
distilleries, and it also gave the Rock Island a direct connection to the
Iowa Central/M&StL. On April 21, 1921, M&StL trains ceased using P&PU's
Peoria Union Depot, instead terminating its passenger trains at the Rock
Island's downtown depot. To do this, M&StL passenger trains used the Belt
Line (until 1939). Freight transfers to and from the CRI&P's Peoria Yard did
as well.
In the postwar era, the Belt Line gave CRI&P access to CILCO's gas plant,
Pabst Brewing Co's malt house, Hiram Walker & Sons' Riverside Elevator Co,
Hiram Walker & Sons' feed house and shipping warehouse, Martin Oil Service
Co, National Distillers' Product Co, Commercial Solvents Co, Hiram Walker &
Sons Plant No. 2 and Barrett Paper Div. Allied Chemical & Dye.
In Illinois Terminal's Directory of Industries (1947), CRI&P, not PTCo, is
shown as serving carrier, so perhaps when PTCo took over operation of the
PRT in 1927, the Belt Line became a CRI&P operation?
The CRI&P estate sold the Belt Line to ADM in February 1981. The double
track was probably reduced to single track in the 1970s, possibly after the
Rock's bankruptcy filing (unneeded rails sold for cash?) or this was done by
ADM in the 1980s (which I doubt). Whatever the case, entire Belt Line had
been reduced to just a single track, and the only spurs served ADM's
riverfront plant.
In 1993, ADM South Yard was built between Sanger and S. Darst Streets, and a
spur was constructed into Peoria Barge Terminal. In the early 2000s, a spur
was built to serve Interstate Asphalt Corp's Peoria River Terminal (another
track was added by 2010). In summer 2011, Seneca Petroleum had two tracks
built for its nearby liquid asphalt storage facility.
So after nearly 120 years, the Belt Line (ADM called it the "River Track")
still thrives.
DPJ
I would like to learn more information on the nature of the operation ofthe Belt Line and the mileposts for Walnut St. Tower (TP&W Crossing), P&PUcrossing and >Iowa Jct (or end of track) and any other points of
significance.
John
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#30214
Belt line was all yard limits. Even when Rocket came to turn at Collier Yard they did not get train orders from PT tower as it was yard limits to Collier Yard.
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--- On Fri, 12/28/12, bsrls@... wrote:
From: bsrls@...
Subject: [PeoriaRails] Re: Rock Island Terminal
To: PeoriaRails@...
Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 4:21 PMJohn,
Do you recall any train orders being issued for trains running on the Belt Line?
Best,
Bill Saenger--- In PeoriaRails@..., John Stell wrote:
>
> The two mains were called the River Main and the Bluff Main when I worked the PT tower.
>
> --- On Thu, 12/27/12, David Jordan wrote:
>
> From: David Jordan
> Subject: RE: [PeoriaRails] Re: Rock Island Terminal
> To: PeoriaRails@...
> Date: Thursday, December 27, 2012, 11:09 PM
>
>
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>
>
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> The Belt Line has an interesting history. Grading was actually started by
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> the Peoria & Farmington (Iowa Central/M&StL predecessor) in 1882, but the
>
> project was likely abandoned when the P&F ran into financial trouble (which
>
> led to consolidation with the Iowa Central).
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>
>
> In 1885, the Peoria Railway Terminal Company was formed to build a Belt Line
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> from near Walnut Street in downtown Peoria to Monmouth Jct. (today's Iowa
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> Junction) on Peoria's south edge. Land was acquired along the riverfront and
>
> construction got underway in September 1892. Tracklaying commenced in March
>
> 1893 and the Belt Line was put into service in late May 1893.
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>
> Illinois Sugar Refining Co's Illinois Valley Belt Railway had trackage
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> rights over interurban P&PT and PRT's Belt Line starting in 1902 so it could
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> connect the Pekin and Peoria sugar houses. When the latter closed a few
>
> years later, the IVB ceased operations.
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>
>
> The railroad was leased to the Rock Island & Peoria Railway in 1894. Then it
>
> was sold to the RI&P on June 10, 1903, the day before RI&P was leased in
>
> perpetuity to the Chicago Rock Island & Pacific. On that day (June 11,
>
> 1903), The Peoria Railway Terminal Company was renamed Peoria Terminal
>
> Company. (NOTE: The "Peoria Railway Terminal" name would be used by
>
> interurban Peoria & Pekin Terminal after it was acquired by the Chicago &
>
> Alton and CRI&P in 1907).
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> The Belt Line was built to access Lower Peoria's several large whiskey
>
> distilleries, and it also gave the Rock Island a direct connection to the
>
> Iowa Central/M&StL. On April 21, 1921, M&StL trains ceased using P&PU's
>
> Peoria Union Depot, instead terminating its passenger trains at the Rock
>
> Island's downtown depot. To do this, M&StL passenger trains used the Belt
>
> Line (until 1939). Freight transfers to and from the CRI&P's Peoria Yard did
>
> as well.
>
>
>
> In the postwar era, the Belt Line gave CRI&P access to CILCO's gas plant,
>
> Pabst Brewing Co's malt house, Hiram Walker & Sons' Riverside Elevator Co,
>
> Hiram Walker & Sons' feed house and shipping warehouse, Martin Oil Service
>
> Co, National Distillers' Product Co, Commercial Solvents Co, Hiram Walker &
>
> Sons Plant No. 2 and Barrett Paper Div. Allied Chemical & Dye.
>
>
>
> In Illinois Terminal's Directory of Industries (1947), CRI&P, not PTCo, is
>
> shown as serving carrier, so perhaps when PTCo took over operation of the
>
> PRT in 1927, the Belt Line became a CRI&P operation?
>
>
>
> The CRI&P estate sold the Belt Line to ADM in February 1981. The double
>
> track was probably reduced to single track in the 1970s, possibly after the
>
> Rock's bankruptcy filing (unneeded rails sold for cash?) or this was done by
>
> ADM in the 1980s (which I doubt). Whatever the case, entire Belt Line had
>
> been reduced to just a single track, and the only spurs served ADM's
>
> riverfront plant.
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>
> In 1993, ADM South Yard was built between Sanger and S. Darst Streets, and a
>
> spur was constructed into Peoria Barge Terminal. In the early 2000s, a spur
>
> was built to serve Interstate Asphalt Corp's Peoria River Terminal (another
>
> track was added by 2010). In summer 2011, Seneca Petroleum had two tracks
>
> built for its nearby liquid asphalt storage facility.
>
>
>
> So after nearly 120 years, the Belt Line (ADM called it the "River Track")
>
> still thrives.
>
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> DPJ
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> >I would like to learn more information on the nature of the operation of
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> the Belt Line and the mileposts for Walnut St. Tower (TP&W Crossing), P&PU
>
> crossing and >Iowa Jct (or end of track) and any other points of
>
> significance.
>
Bob
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#30218
Bill,
Your mention of trains between Sankoty and Peoria caught my eye. Did Sankoty have a station or stop or was it just a siding? I thought Mossville would be the next station north of Peoria. Being from Peoria Heights makes me curious.
At one time I thought there was a stop in the Heights near Marietta and Prospect but as time goes on I am coming to believe it was the switch that went to the back of the Rouse and Hazard building. The switch was a few yards East of Prospect and its track was in a severely washed out condition in the mid 60's.
Thanks,
Bob
Bill Saenger
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#30224
Thanks John. That confirms what I believed to have been the case for the Belt Line.
Best,
Bill Saenger
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--- In PeoriaRails@..., John Stell <stell_john@...> wrote:
Belt line was all yard limits. ÂEven when Rocket came to turn at Collier Yard they did not get train orders from PT tower as it was yard limits to Collier Yard.--- On Fri, 12/28/12, bsrls@... <bsrls@...> wrote:
From: bsrls@... <bsrls@...>
Subject: [PeoriaRails] Re: Rock Island Terminal
To: PeoriaRails@...
Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 4:21 PMÂ
John,
Do you recall any train orders being issued for trains running on the Belt Line?
Best,
Bill Saenger
--- In PeoriaRails@..., John Stell <stell_john@> wrote:
The two mains were called the River Main and the Bluff Main when I worked the PT tower.--- On Thu, 12/27/12, David Jordan <dpj1974@> wrote:From: David Jordan <dpj1974@>Subject: RE: [PeoriaRails] Re: Rock Island TerminalTo: PeoriaRails@...Date: Thursday, December 27, 2012, 11:09 PMÂÂThe Belt Line has an interesting history. Grading was actually started bythe Peoria & Farmington (Iowa Central/M&StL predecessor) in 1882, but theproject was likely abandoned when the P&F ran into financial trouble (whichled to consolidation with the Iowa Central).In 1885, the Peoria Railway Terminal Company was formed to build a Belt Linefrom near Walnut Street in downtown Peoria to Monmouth Jct. (today's IowaJunction) on Peoria's south edge. Land was acquired along the riverfront andconstruction got underway in September 1892. Tracklaying commenced in March1893 and the Belt Line was put into service in late May 1893.Illinois Sugar Refining Co's Illinois Valley Belt Railway had trackagerights over interurban P&PT and PRT's Belt Line starting in 1902 so it couldconnect the Pekin and Peoria sugar houses. When the latter closed a fewyears later, the IVB ceased operations.The railroad was leased to the Rock Island & Peoria Railway in 1894. Then itwas sold to the RI&P on June 10, 1903, the day before RI&P was leased inperpetuity to the Chicago Rock Island & Pacific. On that day (June 11,1903), The Peoria Railway Terminal Company was renamed Peoria TerminalCompany. (NOTE: The "Peoria Railway Terminal" name would be used byinterurban Peoria & Pekin Terminal after it was acquired by the Chicago &Alton and CRI&P in 1907).The Belt Line was built to access Lower Peoria's several large whiskeydistilleries, and it also gave the Rock Island a direct connection to theIowa Central/M&StL. On April 21, 1921, M&StL trains ceased using P&PU'sPeoria Union Depot, instead terminating its passenger trains at the RockIsland's downtown depot. To do this, M&StL passenger trains used the BeltLine (until 1939). Freight transfers to and from the CRI&P's Peoria Yard didas well.In the postwar era, the Belt Line gave CRI&P access to CILCO's gas plant,Pabst Brewing Co's malt house, Hiram Walker & Sons' Riverside Elevator Co,Hiram Walker & Sons' feed house and shipping warehouse, Martin Oil ServiceCo, National Distillers' Product Co, Commercial Solvents Co, Hiram Walker &Sons Plant No. 2 and Barrett Paper Div. Allied Chemical & Dye.In Illinois Terminal's Directory of Industries (1947), CRI&P, not PTCo, isshown as serving carrier, so perhaps when PTCo took over operation of thePRT in 1927, the Belt Line became a CRI&P operation?The CRI&P estate sold the Belt Line to ADM in February 1981. The doubletrack was probably reduced to single track in the 1970s, possibly after theRock's bankruptcy filing (unneeded rails sold for cash?) or this was done byADM in the 1980s (which I doubt). Whatever the case, entire Belt Line hadbeen reduced to just a single track, and the only spurs served ADM'sriverfront plant.In 1993, ADM South Yard was built between Sanger and S. Darst Streets, and aspur was constructed into Peoria Barge Terminal. In the early 2000s, a spurwas built to serve Interstate Asphalt Corp's Peoria River Terminal (anothertrack was added by 2010). In summer 2011, Seneca Petroleum had two tracksbuilt for its nearby liquid asphalt storage facility.So after nearly 120 years, the Belt Line (ADM called it the "River Track")still thrives.DPJI would like to learn more information on the nature of the operation ofthe Belt Line and the mileposts for Walnut St. Tower (TP&W Crossing), P&PUcrossing and >Iowa Jct (or end of track) and any other points ofsignificance.
Bill Saenger
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#30225
Bob,
I do not know if Sankoty was a passenger stop or not. Sankoty's listing in the employee timetable with the station times for all scheduled trains is for operational purposes only. BTW, at that time, 1942, there were 4 passenger trains and 2 freight trains westward (towards Peoria) and 4 passenger trains and 3 freight trains eastward scheduled. This timetable make no mention of passenger train stops.
Best,
Bill Saenger
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--- In PeoriaRails@..., "blipka59" <blipka59@...> wrote:
Bill,Your mention of trains between Sankoty and Peoria caught my eye. Did Sankoty have a station or stop or was it just a siding? I thought Mossville would be the next station north of Peoria. Being from Peoria Heights makes me curious.
At one time I thought there was a stop in the Heights near Marietta and Prospect but as time goes on I am coming to believe it was the switch that went to the back of the Rouse and Hazard building. The switch was a few yards East of Prospect and its track was in a severely washed out condition in the mid 60's.
Thanks,
Bob
Ed Johnson
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#30265
John & All,
All the posts about the R.I.'s belt line (PT) got me to searh my TP&W original photos. I have created a "TP&W Original by Ed Johnson" album in the photos section. Some comments.
In the Walnut St. tower photo, I only see one PT track crossing the TP&W. The weeds could have been a second track. Date is June 6, 1965.
John, you posted "TP&W Jordan spreader was black at least from 1967 until 1983. I think it was numbered 21 but I may be wrong. The flat car with the air compressors was numbered 27.". It looks to be faded black in the July 31, 1983 shot when it was at I.Bork & Sons yard.
The TP&W 901 photo is for David Jordan. My memory cannot retrieve what railroad had the back to back flat car unloading area in Peoria, IL. Looks like a Cohen furnature truck in the background. Date is February 20, 1966.
The TP&W 2)11 train had 9 working locomotives. Wish I had counted the cars. I must have had something else to do. Date is March 9, 1980.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Ed Johnson
Peoria, IL.
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--- In PeoriaRails@..., John Stell <stell_john@...> wrote:
The two mains were called the River Main and the Bluff Main when I worked the PT tower.
--- On Thu, 12/27/12, David Jordan <dpj1974@...> wrote:
From: David Jordan <dpj1974@...>
Subject: RE: [PeoriaRails] Re: Rock Island Terminal
To: PeoriaRails@...
Date: Thursday, December 27, 2012, 11:09 PM
In 1885, the Peoria Railway Terminal Company was formed to build a Belt Line from near Walnut Street in downtown Peoria to Monmouth Jct. (today's Iowa Junction) on Peoria's south edge.
dpj1974@mediacombb.net
#30269
For Ken Thompson too!
Those areCB&Q's depressed ramps between Persimmon and State streets. The new TOFC facilities were announced in mid-September 1964, and I believe they were placed into service in Spring? 1965.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PeoriaRails/photos/recent/1332644043/view
Thanks for posting these, Ed!
DPJ
>The TP&W 901 photo is for David Jordan. My memory cannot retrieve what railroad had the back to back flat car unloading area in Peoria, IL. Looks like a Cohen furnature truck in the background. Date is February 20, >1966.
ken thompson
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#30274
Fantastic shot of the piggyback ramp! I'll definitely put this to use in my modeling.
Thankyou!
Ken T.
